{"id":10494,"date":"2017-07-26T16:32:30","date_gmt":"2017-07-26T16:32:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/?p=10494"},"modified":"2019-08-30T16:38:40","modified_gmt":"2019-08-30T16:38:40","slug":"gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/blog\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios\/","title":{"rendered":"GRE Math for People Who Hate Math: Ratios"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10534\" src=\"\/\/cdn2.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios-chelsey-cooley.png\" alt=\"Manhattan Prep GRE Blog - GRE Math for People Who Hate Math by Chelsey Cooley\" width=\"1200\" height=\"628\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios-chelsey-cooley.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios-chelsey-cooley-300x157.png 300w, https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios-chelsey-cooley-768x402.png 768w, https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/gre-math-for-people-who-hate-math-ratios-chelsey-cooley-1024x536.png 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><b><i>You can attend the first session of any of our online or in-person GRE courses absolutely free. Crazy, right? <\/i><\/b><a id=\"bloglink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/classes\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b><i>Check out our upcoming courses here<\/i><\/b><\/a><b><i>.<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><b><i><\/i><\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I recently had a great conversation about ratios with one of our MPrep GRE classes. It\u2019s a tiny class, and only two students were there that day (hey guys!). When I shared a tricky ratio problem with them, both students had totally different, but equally reasonable, reactions to it. Here\u2019s the problem: <\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The ratio of boys to girls in a class is 2 to 3. If 6 boys and 6 girls join the class, what is the new ratio of boys to girls?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The truth is, this is a trick question. But before I reveal why, I\u2019d like to share the two different ways that my students approached it. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One student reasoned about it like this:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The ratio is initially 2 boys to 3 girls. When 6 boys and 6 girls join the class, you should end up with a ratio of 2+6=8 boys to 3+6=9 girls. The answer is 8 to 9. <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The other student reasoned about it like this:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A ratio is a relationship between two quantities. If we add the same number of boys as girls, the relationship between boys and girls shouldn\u2019t change. The answer is 2 to 3.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Both of those are pretty logical. However, neither 8 to 9, nor 2 to 3, is the right answer. Let\u2019s understand why.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The fundamental problem with ratios is that <\/span><b>they don\u2019t give you very much information<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. When the problem tells you that the ratio of boys to girls is 2 to 3, it\u2019s leaving a lot of possibilities open. You could have exactly 2 boys and exactly 3 girls. You could have 20 boys and 30 girls. You could even have 200 boys and 300 girls. As long as there are 2 boys for every 3 girls, there could be any number of students in the class.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, <\/span><b>in order to <\/b><b><i>calculate<\/i><\/b><b> ratios on the GRE, you usually need to know exact numbers<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. In the problem above, you\u2019re asked to find the new ratio between boys and girls. That actually depends on exactly how many boys and girls there are. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If there were 2 boys and 3 girls to start out with, the new number of boys is 8, and the new number of girls is 9. <\/span><b>The new ratio is 8 to 9<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. If there were 20 boys and 30 girls to start out with, the new number of boys is 26, and the new number of girls is 36. The new ratio is 26 to 36. Simplify this by dividing both parts by 2: <\/span><b>this ratio is 13 to 18<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. If there were 200 boys and 300 girls, the new ratio will be 206 to 306, or <\/span><b>103 to 153<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. All three of those ratios are different, and all three of them are correct. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, what\u2019s the right answer to the question? \u201cIt depends on how many boys and girls there are.\u201d Since you don\u2019t <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">know<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> how many boys and girls there are, you can\u2019t figure out the right answer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let\u2019s look at the two ways of reasoning about ratios from earlier in the article. The first student <\/span><b>assumed that the ratio would give her the exact numbers.<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Remember that any time a problem gives you a ratio, there are many different numbers that could work. This is a good opportunity to try different sets of numbers, to check whether the answer changes. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The second student made a more subtle mistake. If we had <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">multiplied<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> the number of boys and the number of girls by 6, the relationship would have stayed the same. The ratio would have been 12 to 18, which simplifies back down to 2 to 3. However, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">adding<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> the same number of boys and girls doesn\u2019t have that effect. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You can always multiply or divide both parts of a ratio by the same value (just like you can with a fraction).<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>2 to 3 = 4 to 6 = 20 to 30 = 2000 to 3000<\/b><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10495 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/cc-52-image-1.png\" alt=\"Manhattan Prep GRE Blog - GRE Math for People Who Hate Math: Ratios by Chelsey Cooley\" width=\"180\" height=\"64\" \/><\/p>\n<p>You can\u2019t <i>add<\/i> the same value to both parts of a ratio. Doing that changes the value of the ratio.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>2 to 3 \u2260 8 to 9<\/b><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><b>x to y \u2260 (x + 3) to (y + 3)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Fractions work the same way!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10496 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2017\/07\/cc-52-image-2.png\" alt=\"Manhattan Prep GRE Blog - GRE Math for People Who Hate Math: Ratios by Chelsey Cooley\" width=\"95\" height=\"44\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That\u2019s why you can\u2019t \u201ccancel\u201d the two matching 3s in the expression above, by the way! It changes the value of the fraction. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In short, when you\u2019re dealing with ratios, <\/span><b>be cautious<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><b>test numbers<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. A ratio doesn\u2019t give you much information about the actual numbers, so it pays to avoid assumptions. It can also help to remember that ratios are the same as fractions. If you can do something to a fraction\u2014like, for instance, multiplying the top and bottom by the same value\u2014you can also do it to a ratio. If you can\u2019t\u2014for instance, you can\u2019t add two fractions together without first finding a common denominator\u2014you also can\u2019t do it with ratios. ?<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><b><i>See that \u201cSUBSCRIBE\u201d button in the top right corner? Click on it to receive all our GRE blog updates straight to your inbox!<\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><b><i><em><strong><a id=\"bloglink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/instructors\/chelsey-cooley\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Chelsey Cooley<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/instructors\/chelsey-cooley\/?utm_source=manhattanprep.com%2Fgre%2Fblog&#038;utm_medium=blog&#038;utm_content=CooleyBioGREBlog&#038;utm_campaign=GRE%20Blog\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" title=\"Chelsey Cooley Manhattan Prep GRE Instructor\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn2.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2015\/11\/chelsey-cooley-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Chelsey Cooley Manhattan Prep GRE Instructor\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" data-pin-nopin=\"true\" \/><\/a>\u00a0is a Manhattan Prep instructor based in Seattle, Washington.<\/strong>\u00a0<\/em><\/i><\/b><i><em>Chelsey always followed her heart when it came to her education. Luckily, her heart led her straight to the perfect background for GMAT and GRE teaching: she has undergraduate degrees in mathematics and history, a master\u2019s degree in linguistics, a 790 on the GMAT, and a perfect 170Q\/170V on the GRE.\u00a0<\/em><\/i><i><em><a id=\"bloglink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.manhattanprep.com\/gre\/classes\/#instructor\/48\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Check out Chelsey\u2019s upcoming GRE prep offerings here<\/a>.<\/em><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You can attend the first session of any of our online or in-person GRE courses absolutely free. Crazy, right? Check out our upcoming courses here. I recently had a great conversation about ratios with one of our MPrep GRE classes. It\u2019s a tiny class, and only two students were there that day (hey guys!). 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