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Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

by rossoke Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:51 pm

I’ve had 3 different tutors, so I think I can offer a unique perspective because I’ve seen what others have to offer. I know that many people have already said great things about Ron and I agree with them so I won’t repeat what’s already been said. What I will talk about is what makes Ron so good.

He knows his material, and not just his material but theories, ideas, and methods that go far beyond the material.
    Besides having excellent credentials, he’s been teaching standardized testing for years, and I’m talking over a decade or more. He takes a holistic approach to studying. I don’t know of any other teachers who can talk about the Stanislavsky method and the biological effects of stress and how all of it can be related to GMAT studying.

    He makes even the complex simple by offering easy-to-grasp analogies and explanations
      If you want a good example of this, you can check out his Thursdays with Ron video where he explains factors. He gives a good story to help understand the concept by using the story of two robbers.

      He simplifies and streamlines
        If there’s a more effective way than formulas and textbook methods, he’ll show you. At the same time, he won’t dismiss other methods. He’s not trying to replace tools in your tool box. He’s trying to give you a wider variety.

        He’ll tell you directly if you’re wasting your time on a certain method or theory
          I memorized a lot of formulas and Ron would tell me whether it was useful or simply a waste of time. If you look on a lot of the forums, you’ll find that many times people are using overly complex theories to solve problems, and if you’re doing this, Ron will tell you.

          He focuses on the essentials
            If you’re spending time learning something that isn’t going to help you on the test, he’ll tell you.

            He has a philosophy
              He has a method and an overall set of ideas that guide him and if anyone’s ever taught professionally, they’ll understand how important this is and how the best teachers have this.

              He'll refocus your attention
                There are many times where one may be doing a problem and wonder, "Is this a 700 level problem?" Ron will tell you that it's not the level, but what you take away or learn from a problem that's important.

                He’s responsive and explains everything until it’s understood
                  Anytime I had a question, he always responded in a timely manner with an excellent detailed response.

                  The first two hours with Ron was worth more than all the time I spent with 3 different tutors. That’s no exaggeration.

                  You can get a good idea of his teaching style if you see some of the Thursdays with Ron videos on MGMAT, but I will say that you should bear in mind that he’s working in a small time frame with a high number of students so if he moves a little quick, realize that in a tutoring session, this won’t happen. He always gives good explanations and is extremely responsive even when you email him. I think his active role and thorough answers in other forums such as Beatthegmat.com should demonstrate his dedication and interest in helping people. I’ve never seen Ron give a short, general explanation to a specific question. You’ll know what I mean if you look at his posts.

                  Even if you don’t have the $1,000 to spend on tutoring, I’d say that if you want to self-study, you should definitely try to find $430 to invest in a two hour session with Ron. I know that $430 is almost the cost of enrollment for some prep companies, but Ron can easily save you time and wasted effort by telling you exactly what you should and shouldn’t be focusing on. There are a lot of excellent forums and websites that offer study tips and information, but it can be difficult to navigate the massive amount of info floating around. By learning from Ron, you’re gaining so much more than quant or verbal knowledge - you’re gaining an overall understanding of the GMAT and the best methods to effectively study for it.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by tina.ty.zhu Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:11 am

                  last wednesday, i retook the gmat and scored 750 (v: 39/87%, q: 51/98%). i messaged ron and got his reply: " i told you that you'd score that high. see, you should have listened to me :)"

                  see, ron is always right :)

                  i know tons of students have already said so many great things about Ron, but i just want to use my own experience to let you know how great Ron is. he is the best teacher i've met so far.

                  I'm a Chinese, non-native speaker, started to speak English 4 months ago.

                  i took the GMAT two years ago when i worked in Singapore.
                  score: 710 (v: 34/68%, q: 50/94%)
                  studying hours: 18 days, 160 hours
                  material: og11, verbal supplement, math supplement

                  retook on 2010/09/29 3:15pm ETD
                  studying hours: 5 sessions with Ron (10hrs) + 5 days (< 60hrs) , <70 hours in total
                  material: og11, og12 (only verbal)

                  BUT, every time i learned so much from Ron, not only specific problem solving skills and TAKEAWAY philosophy but also psychological parts.

                  2008/11
                  two years ago, after eight-day self-study, i thought i knew what the GMAT was and what the GMAC wanted to test, so i did the first prep but only scored 660, which made me so frustrated because i couldn't prepare the GMAT for months, as the others usually do. i surfed bunches of websites, Chinese, Indian, and English. every thread just remaindered me that i couldn't nail it down in such a short time. one day, i opened beatthegmat by chance, and read a thread, an explanation for a math problem. math has been my strongest part since i was a kid, but one explanation still impressed me so much. it was so simple, so beautiful, so understandable, but so powerful that you can take it away and use it in other situations. to be honest, i was a little bit jealous because it was unusual that other's explanation for math problem was even better than mine:). i kept the user name "lunarpower" in my mind, searched all his posts except math, saved, printed out (88 pages), and read again and again till i could recall any post in 2 seconds, even analogy. they were so vivid that i wouldn't forget. i saw the light of the end of tunnel.
                  ron's posts let me know i made the right decision--squeeze og as much as i can. i tried to mock ron's steps and use his method, i forced myself to think in the same way as he did. i applied TAKEAWAY and used OPEN DRILL. then i got 710 in 8 days. i wanted to write some on beatthegmat to appreciate ron's valuable posts, even i didn't know him and of course he didn't know me. but probably because 710 is not a decent score, finally i didn't write any words.

                  2010/09
                  this summer, i was supposed to intern in nyc, but at last minute changed mind and went to Cali. when i drove on 101, saw "santa rosa" blinking in the dusk, a name suddenly jumped out, ron purewal.
                  i was planning to land a job instead of applying. but one day in aug, during lunch break, i searched this name again, only one second, i decided to retake the GMAT and apply for the Fall 2011 if ron would be my private tutor. fortunately, only two days after i registered, ron wrote me an email, and asked so many detailed questions. i knew i made a right decision again. ron is the one I can trust. and if there is only one I can trust, ron is that person.
                  i was crazy busy, and still couldn't find any time to read og before the first session with ron. but during the first two hours, ron let me know that his work was so priceless that if i had to spend $4300 for his two hours, i would pay it without any hesitation.
                  there is a chinese proverb by Lao-Tzu, "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."
                  ron not only gives me fish which can fill my stomach immediately, but also teaches me how to fish which will ensure that i can catch as much as i want.

                  specific improvement
                  ron never told me how to solve a specific problem, and never offered me strategy to solve problem at the beginning. he always asked me to do a problem, observed how i solved the problem, and then analyzed why i made mistake. it's amazing. he knew exactly what i thought for that problem. finally he would give me some suggestions which fit my skill so well that i didn't need to abandon all mine but just make some adjustments.
                  sc is my weakest part. for parallelism, modifier, and pronoun, ron offered me such a unique perspective and many powerful weapons that i could use it efficiently without any mistake.
                  as for rc, more than 80% mistakes were main idea. ron explained it for more than 30 minutes, finally i caught up his point. after that i did rc problems from both og11 and og12, the accuracy rate was 90% and no mistake for main idea. when i did GMATPrep, i got all rc questions right.
                  as for cr, ron listed 5 different types, and gave different strategy for each type. these strategies helped me pick out the right answer in such a short time, normally less than 30 seconds.
                  ron also found that my pace was too fast, so he wrote down 3 lines "SLOW DOWN". when i was taking exam, these three lines were dancing in front of my eyes ;) really helpful.
                  btw, during the first session, ron spent more than 30 minutes to explain the difference between doing problem and reviewing problem, and taught me how to review question and how to make my self-study more efficient.

                  psychological part
                  i only had 5 days to utilize these strategies, and the last session was on Tuesday early morning, only one day before my test. i was so stressful and couldn't sleep. ron analyzed my situation, listed the reasons that i didn't need to worry about the score, and told me that i would get a high score with high possibility. he even used some statistics data to let me believe i wasn't such a dumb**s.
                  on Wednesday i was doing the first GMATPrep till 12:30pm and only scored 730 because i made so many silly mistakes in math part. but when i remembered what ron said, i calmed down, went home, had a lunch, took a nap, and then went to test center. i just used my instincts developed from hundreds of similar situations to guide me through the current situation smoothly.

                  all of these will benefit me for a lifetime.

                  ron, you are such a great tutor!
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by vivinkarkera Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:02 pm

                  gmatguy wrote:Has anyone had Ron Purewal as an instructor? Curious to know before I drop $1400!


                  hey even i would like to enroll for this course....can tell me where i can enroll for the online course...???
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by RonPurewal Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:03 am

                  thanks for the feedback, everyone -- i appreciate it.

                  @ vivinkarkera:
                  vivinkarkera wrote:hey even i would like to enroll for this course....can tell me where i can enroll for the online course...???


                  i don't teach the online 9-session course -- i have my hands full with live courses in the san francisco / san jose area -- but that course is taught by many of our other instructors, all of whom have been hand-picked for their impressive teaching ability.
                  (also, the online course costs substantially less; the $1400 figure is the approximate cost of the live course. the online course costs a few hundred dollars less.)

                  the only things that i currently teach online are these "study halls" every other thursday:
                  http://www.manhattangmat.com/thursdays-with-ron.cfm
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by prepgmat09 Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:15 am

                  Glad to report that I wrote my GMAT recently and scored a 770(Q51, V42). I must have gone through over 150 SC explanations and several CR explanations by Ron on Manhattan GMAT forum. I also saw some recordings from "Thursdays with Ron". Every explanation and lecture by Ron is simply amazing. His style of first empathizing with the student and then explaining the problem by giving small and relevant examples is superb. Of over 100 teachers who have taught me, he is undoubtedly one of the the best I have ever come across.

                  Many many thanks, Ron.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by oleg.zen Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:08 pm

                  Hi there. I've completed classes with Ron couple weeks ago. My first test 3 months ago was 610, and I needed something more than 700. So, I put the money. And got lucky to have classes with Ron. I can only confirm all said above. In addition I can testify that his attention to every working student worth best words. My problem is "English as a second language". Not only I was able to understand well Ron's very articulate and clear-English explanations, not only Ron was patient enough to decipher my questions at times, he was kind to take a second to correct me and explain my linguistic mistakes!

                  I would really recommend to follow Ron's notes and advices, it seems he sees very well your problems, very thoughtfully handles them and as result precisely nails your "diagnosis" and comes up with the best advises. Manhattan materials are very good, but attending classes was definitely what made it work for me.

                  The week my classes ended I took test and scored 710.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by tdavis Mon May 23, 2011 12:30 pm

                  I used Ron Purewal for a few math tutoring sessions and found him to be tremendously helpful. He is great about explaining the concepts, very patient, and I saw a significant jump in my quantitative score after spending time with Ron and using his strategies. Having had a few different GMAT tutors, I found Ron to be the most effective. I wish I had known about him sooner and been able to spend more of my time studying with Ron. The detailed notes that he types up for students are far beyond what other tutors had done. After each session, he sends an email that night with notes and specific strategies tailored to your learning style. He is great about extracting strategies from different OG problems so that even if the problem you see on the test is different, you can find a way to implement one of his strategies to help you get the answer.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by saintjingjing Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:30 am

                  first, I really really respect Ron. Now, I have a problem, I see many people can directly contact with Ron or other mentor by using PM(sorry, I just know, but do not know what it is?) en, I will have exam in next two weeks, so I really hope Ron can reply me .
                  yes , my post address "http://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/the-state-has-proposed-new-rules-that-would-set-t5934.html"

                  also, I am the last poster in such post, people can directly go to the second page, and help me, please. ha
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by RonPurewal Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:52 pm

                  saintjingjing, there is no private messaging on this forum; perhaps you are confusing it with another forum.
                  also, we reply to posts strictly in the order in which they are posted, oldest to newest.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by markus_adhiwiyogo Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:59 am

                  I've heard great reviews about MGMAT, but I didn't know much about Ron before I enrolled in the 9-week live session. I really got lucky to get Ron as my instructor.

                  I agree with everyone's statements about Ron's knowledge about the materials in the GMAT and explanations for each problem. What really struck me is how much he cares about his student. If you ask for feedback, Ron will ask you more to get to the bottom of what you are really asking or need. The amount of feedback that I get from Ron is really beyond what most teachers I've known would give (perhaps the most). And you know what? His feedbacks were quite accurate because when I apply his feedback, my performance improved.

                  Ron also goes beyond the content of the GMAT. He also goes over psychological and physiological aspect of the test, and how you should prepare for such factors during the test. In addition, early on, Ron debunks the myths that I used to believe about the GMAT.

                  Another method that I find really useful is his tough love approach to teach his student (e.g. forcing yourself to guess or dump questions). It's almost like "scolding" a child, but you know what? It works because that shows in my performance improvement during the prep.

                  Last but not least, his "Thursdays with Ron" are really great content. You really get a preview of how he teaches by watching these videos.

                  What other proof do I have that Ron's a great instructor? Thanks to his coaching, I've joined the above 700 club.

                  A short advice to everyone taking classes with Ron: When Ron speaks, listen to him! :)

                  Thanks Ron!
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by kapoor.sam Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:19 pm

                  I am a MGMAT current live student in Chicago and I have found the free resource every 2 weeks "Thursdays with Ron" as well as vast archive collection more valuable than anything else. I feel that MGMAT should have kept this treasure chest of resource for it's own students instead of giving it away for free. Had I known about this resource earlier I may have preferred self-study and religiously gone through every single session with Ron. Excellent material and it's free!!!
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by jmsouth3 Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:33 pm

                  Ron is fantastic. He looks at things in a very unorthodox fashion, and helps you to put your assumptions aside in order to focus on what really matters. I went from a 680 to a 730 after my sessions with Ron, and it was simply a matter of following his strategies to approach the test in a different way than normal. I just got accepted to Berkeley thanks in large part to Ron's help.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by adt29 Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:31 pm

                  Ron, do you still do private online tutoring? I live in NYC. Thank you!
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by RonPurewal Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:46 am

                  adt29 wrote:Ron, do you still do private online tutoring? I live in NYC. Thank you!


                  Hi,
                  We don't normally moderate these folders (the non-GMAT-topic folders), so be careful about expecting a response here. The only folders moderated by instructors are the ones labeled, appropriately enough, "ask an instructor". (I actually clicked this folder by mistake, lol.)

                  If you post an email address here, I'll email you. (Post a throwaway email address, not your "real" email address, because there are spambots that troll the forum.)
                  No guarantees that the timing will work out -- my sleep/work schedule is weird, and largely incompatible with most standard U.S. work schedules -- but i'll try my best.
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                  Re: Any feedback on Ron Purewal?

                  by Black Hole Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:08 am

                  Even if you don’t have the $1,000 to spend on tutoring, I’d say that if you want to self-study, you should definitely try to find $430 to invest in a two hour session with Ron. I know that $430 is almost the cost of enrollment for some prep companies, but Ron can easily save you time and wasted effort by telling you exactly what you should and shouldn’t be focusing on. There are a lot of excellent forums and websites that offer study tips and information, but it can be difficult to navigate the massive amount of info floating around. By learning from Ron, you’re gaining so much more than quant or verbal knowledge - you’re gaining an overall understanding of the GMAT and the best methods to effectively study for it.


                  does Ron take any online class which worth $430 ? how can i enroll for this sort of class.what is process for enrolling here?
                  thanks...